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Force vs Smurfs
Posted by UnderCover, 5545 days, 20 hours and 38 minutes ago
Category: General Utopia News
The Battlefield kingdoms eX Force Xe and Smurf Squad KLA have both been in the wars recently, with several hostiles flowing back and forth between them.

After the Smurfs' war withdrawal against Force last week, Force has declared two consecutive hostiles against them. In the most recent hostile, Force took back 4000 acres before Smurfs went to fakewar. They are currently in mass vacation mode.

Smurfs had the following comment: "I dont think we saw eye to eye often, but Force have an active kd that can co-ordinate and that much we can respect"

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Dan Dead
Posts: 17
(07-Sep-2004 12:37 pm)
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Dont got much to say bout it anymore... facts speak for itself.
PhoenixCRO
Posts: 99
(07-Sep-2004 12:41 pm)
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This will be pretty boring war with expected result. Oh well.
PhoenixCRO
Posts: 100
(07-Sep-2004 12:43 pm)
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Yep, i mean, it's gonna be pretty boring until age ends ;)
Dan Dead
Posts: 18
(07-Sep-2004 12:44 pm)
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Yeah, cuz green smurves arent as much fun as blue ones :)
PhoenixCRO
Posts: 101
(07-Sep-2004 12:48 pm)
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As my master ObiWan would say:
"You cant win, but there r alternatives to fighting"

:)))
burnout1
Posts: 9
(07-Sep-2004 12:53 pm)
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now thi is a boring post..
vacation mode yay, we know how to run and hide!
TartanoS
Posts: 3
(07-Sep-2004 12:55 pm)
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this is more a followup, Force challenged them, Smurfs accepted. Force declared, smurfs run into FW and turned green.
Protector
Posts: 38
(07-Sep-2004 12:56 pm)
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Ive had a talk with Smurfs and we will cancel both dragons. Both kingdoms will go their own way from now on..

Force doesnt have any grudges against Smurfs, and they didnt have any against us either. It was all about revenge :)

Last i wish to comment is "thanks to Smurfs for giving us our 5th war this age.. the bad part from it is that it had to go this way."

Good luck to Smurfs the rest of the age
Phiberoptic
Posts: 13
(07-Sep-2004 01:01 pm)
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damnit you guy freaks stop the lame chain. I wanna see one day a lame chain that is HUGE. like 100 lames :P
Da Joker
Posts: 33
(07-Sep-2004 03:00 pm)
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Smurfs are Soooooo overrated....
Gj force on taking those acres back
streetacez
Posts: 31
(07-Sep-2004 05:38 pm)
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Lame. Thats what smurfs do good, is live in the woods and hide.
Fist of Ares
(Posted as Fist of Ares UC)
Posts: 5
(07-Sep-2004 06:08 pm)
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GO FORCE!!! w00t!
Warfist
Posts: 67
(07-Sep-2004 06:45 pm)
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Force are lamers. They challenged smurfs to a war and said no ops til War but they continued to op...also they waited until they had been op'ing smurfs for like 4 days into their FW and smurfs were already weak before they made their declaration. Smurfs could have warred Force but that would've been giving force exactly what they wanted...and force dont deserve that.
Bagsik
Posts: 53
(07-Sep-2004 06:49 pm)
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Hmmm .... does this news deserve to be in UT? There is no war, right? Smurfs are running away because they are afraid to take on Force so what's new?

There are other wars out there that deserve to be here in UT. Most of them are in WoL and nobody is taking them seriously because they are not named "Smurfs', "Force", "Crazy", "Insomnia", "Playboys", among others. Can we have a whole new age without any of those kingdoms being mentioned, not even once. I'm tired of listening to the same old people blabbbering this and blabbering that. Please UT .... Just one whole age without any of the top 50 kingdoms being mentioned in UT news.
jenna7
Posts: 9
(07-Sep-2004 07:10 pm)
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Bagsik :- the reason why Top 50 kd names get on UT news is because they are the cream of utopia. They are Utopia's best.

Its like saying...plz give scholarships to the people who get D's in their classes....

Get a life..ghettos dont deserve coming on UT news....just like those who get D's ....keke
jenna7
Posts: 10
(07-Sep-2004 07:12 pm)
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btw Smurfs RUN RUN RUN....for GARGAMEL pWNz U
shawnrox
Posts: 4
(07-Sep-2004 07:16 pm)
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that's why he's sitting there bitching about some wars on WoL.

C'mon, nobody knows who the Yankee's minor league teams are (okay, some do) but they know who the Yankees are. Simple.

In other news, semi-active ghetto #1 declares semi-active ghetto #2. 50 acres were exchanged. One attack for 50 acres from a 400 acre province, 8 bounced.

Oooohhh ... how fun.

Please, stick to your 1.2M WoL KD and shut up.
TasukeSama
Posts: 15
(07-Sep-2004 08:44 pm)
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just wat wars on WoL are you proposing they report?? WTA bottom feeding on the rest of the server..? even newbies are reaching 1m+ on that server this age ok .. there is a reason why nobody is taking them seriously.. its because they're not up to standard..
Blade
Posts: 97
(08-Sep-2004 02:00 am)
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Go boys!! :)
Bagsik
Posts: 57
(08-Sep-2004 02:04 am)
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Wow! jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama are acting all high and mighty as if they are the authority in both UT and swirve.

Hail jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama! Come on, everyone! Join me.

Hail jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama!
Hail jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama!
They are the cream of the crop.
Follow what they preach and what they post.
Hail jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama!
Bagsik
Posts: 58
(08-Sep-2004 02:12 am)
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jenna7: "the reason why Top 50 kd names get on UT news is because they are the cream of utopia. They are Utopia's best."

shawnrox: "C'mon, nobody knows who the Yankee's minor league teams are (okay, some do) but they know who the Yankees are. Simple."

Hmmm .... so following your line of argument, FREE and Gnomes should have not been reported here in UT at all. Both are not in the top 50 NW charts, hence, not in the 'major league'. FREE may have the war wins, but they are still not the top kingdom with the most war win. They may have been good in the past rounds, but what significant achievement did FREE have this round that warrants being reported in UT when the kingdom with the most war wins was hardly even mentioned?
Bagsik
Posts: 59
(08-Sep-2004 02:24 am)
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You know why they are being reported? It is beacuse some of the UT reporters have vested interest in these kingdoms. They want to promote them and make them well-known to everyone. Maybe because these reporters have either provinces there or have friends playing in those kingdoms, or one of those kingdoms is the flagship kingdom of their alliance. Heck, if Force, Smurfs, Playboys, Famous, and other big kingdoms now end up with only 1 million in the middle of the round next age, they will still be reported here in UT.
Bagsik
Posts: 60
(08-Sep-2004 02:27 am)
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My point is that, UT reporters are so selective and bias. If they want to report only events or happenings among the top 50 kingdoms, then why was the Tivoli war not here or even the war of the kingdom with the most war wins in BF? Care to explain oh all high and mighty jenna7, shawnrox and TasukeSama. You seem to know more about these things than other people here that you may want to share your precious knowledge to simple peasants like me. sarcasm*
Kaer Pike
Posts: 46
(08-Sep-2004 02:35 am)
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Da Joker

Smurfs are Soooooo overrated....
Gj force on taking those acres back
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Im not in smurfs, but i know them, and this comment couldnt be said by no other than a noob :)
Bagsik
Posts: 61
(08-Sep-2004 02:36 am)
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TasukeSama: " .. there is a reason why nobody is taking them seriously.. its because they're not up to standard.."

Hmmmm ... are you sure you want to pursue this line of argument? WoL kingdoms not up to standard you say? Well, well, well, who among the kingdoms in BF is the most dominant in the NW charts right now? (let see if you are doing your homework) Did that kingdom came from WoL or not?
Bagsik
Posts: 62
(08-Sep-2004 02:39 am)
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And whose standards are we talking here? Your standard? Hmmm ... maybe you are giving yourself too much credit on this. I can already see your head growing. If the standards of Mehul is to be followed, both BF and WoL are equal since the same rule applies to both server. Hence, the #1 kingdom in WoL is just as powerful as the #1 kingdom in BF. So whose standards are we talking about here?
BangGang IHJ
Posts: 43
(08-Sep-2004 02:42 am)
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we're getting off topic here.... :P
good job Force, sad to see smurfs had to run like that,,,

btw, WoL isnt for newbies ONLY. Looking at the charts, very few people have gotten to 1mil networth. not as many as your comment would suggest anyway. And yes, it can be hard on WoL, and some news there can be worth reporting.
Shadow Storm
Posts: 100
(08-Sep-2004 03:02 am)
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haha.. too bad smurf runs away.. hope that this wont lead to alliance war? exodus vs kla, lol..

maybe smurf can learn a lesson and teach force something!
Kaer Pike
Posts: 47
(08-Sep-2004 06:57 am)
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WoL have very good kds too, ofcourse.. But I know some guys playing in the top n/w kd's on WoL and its a big joke with noobs ruling the top.. :/
Cyrax
Posts: 76
(08-Sep-2004 07:12 am)
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Look what happends if you put F o r c e in the hands of a dutch guy.... It was better during the swedish era :P
mcdull
Posts: 7
(08-Sep-2004 07:27 am)
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Warfist



Force only did intel on smurfs... they didn't do any other ops on them.
DoW
Posts: 27
(08-Sep-2004 10:05 am)
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Off original topic...but not off the topic that's more common in this thread atm.

There are actually a fair number of top players on WoL atm...they play there for the same reason that some people like genesis...not as much politics...of course there is always some...but it's not nearly as prevelant...it is a complete impossibility to be t100 on bf in a ghetto, on WoL it's very very very hard...but still enough within the realm of possibility to give people hope (I was t20 just a week or two ago when I got deleted for target sharing...dumbasses I work with forgot to use proxies when we started helping with the hitting WTA targets).
DoW
Posts: 28
(08-Sep-2004 10:05 am)
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My opinion is there is FAR too little WoL press...I was not only surprised, but completely and totally mystified as to how there could possibly have been no reports of the DRG/WTA conflict. It involved the top 2 kds warring, sa well as almost all of the t20, close to half the t50, and probably close to a dozen t100 provinces not in top kds. How an event like that could not be news worthy I still have no idea...you'd think having the 4 of the t5 provinces in the world going from 10K+ acres to under 3K in one day might have been interesting to people.

So yes...even though WoL doesn't deserve equal billing with BF, it is still extremely underrepresented in the news.
jacqt
Posts: 44
(08-Sep-2004 12:43 pm)
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being on bf atm, i have to agree, there is still some sort of interesting news on wol ....
Zanderman
Posts: 1
(08-Sep-2004 01:53 pm)
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Yeah- i know! I'm in the 2nd best DRG KD there and it really would be worth covering. Someone really oughta look into the DRG vs. WTA conflict. We've scared 2 or 3 WTA KD"s into detagging already :)
Lycan
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(08-Sep-2004 02:34 pm)
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Maybe most the reporters are in BF, Remember these reporters are human too, its all luck how they get the info and whether they wish to report it.

GJ to force.
arhmaad
Posts: 113
(08-Sep-2004 02:50 pm)
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first of all, very few people give a flying fuck about WOL, from these posts as you see, there are 2 people bitchen and everyone else doesnt care.

if they made a post about a WOL war, the whole thread would involve WOL = nOOb, post real news etc...

if you want news, bring your "great" kingdom from wol and see how "great" they are in BF
mas
Posts: 81
(08-Sep-2004 03:35 pm)
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1. Sure its no war. But kind of logic to post a followup. Was the thrid challenge this age but the first accepted challenge and then run. 8-;

2. WoL has some good players but it is minor league and lots of stupid multis. Played there once for a rebuilding age. We almost won the server while rebuilding. Long ago though.

3. Smurfs got opped when they ran off by withdrawal initially as I heard. Nothing wrong with that. Then after they ran 1st time Force offered to leave em alone if they accepted the challenge. Fairer than they had to be. Only info ops after that until the run #2....
DoW
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(08-Sep-2004 04:53 pm)
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LOL @ Arhmaad...typical person who thinks they know what they are talking about but is actually completely clueless.

I played in Force...and under different names I played in BoA and Jester's Troupe (that was likely the most fun I ever had in Utopia...playing in kds where the people running them very intensely disliked (if not hated) me:).
I've also had the number 1 province in the world (yes on BF not WoL...or more specifically most of the times it was before the server split) around half a dozen times...so I know much more about how politics in this game work and am a much better estimator of talent than you'll ever be.
DoW
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(08-Sep-2004 04:53 pm)
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Yeah yeah...I know I've been told by people before to stop bringing up things I did 4-5-6 ages ago...but when clueless noobs like this start to spout off and pretend to be experts on matters it just irks me.
DoW
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(08-Sep-2004 04:53 pm)
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mas: is bf better...of course...but I don't think multiing is any more prevelant on WoL...also I think to call it minor league gives the wrong impression...minor league players are ones that can't make it to the bigs...that's not the case here...there are more skilled players of bf, but there are a large number of guys on WoL that could play on bf (with kd support of course)...
DoW
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(08-Sep-2004 04:53 pm)
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it's not that there is a huge gap in the individual players....just that the kds aren't as well organized (or perhaps traded is a better word). I'd look at it more like comparing Japanese baseball to American baseball. The average American team will beat the average Japanese team...but plenty of Japanese players could make it over here if they wanted to (who leads the league in hits?...a Japanese guy). So the average talent on bf is better...obviously...but there are plenty of skilled WoL players as well.
KYu
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(08-Sep-2004 05:47 pm)
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wow smurfs ran away...didn't they agree to war?

losers
Bagsik
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(08-Sep-2004 07:33 pm)
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DoW has said it all. He made a good example and made some rationale analysis. Unfortunately, arhmaad
and mas are too dense to understand what his points are. arhmaad
and mas thought that they know everything and assumed that BF is the best there is and WoL is just for n00bs and newbies. I wonder how arhmaad
and mas would fare if they were in WoL.
mas
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(09-Sep-2004 01:32 am)
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Quote: minor league players are ones that can't make it to the bigs...that's not the case here

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Eh, sure they can. Lots of players start and play when they are young in the minors and some of em even become superstars later in the big leagues. Most players in any sport dont start immediately in the premier league. That there are good players on WoL I also said. Just less per kingdom. Less density and more noobs.

As of multies: I saw many many more on WoL then anytime on BF. Why is that so? Cause most BF kingdoms and alliances would nuke out any suspected multi remoreselessly and they are much better organized than WoL kingdoms or alliances usually. Thats why. And I really noticed a difference.
mas
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(09-Sep-2004 01:35 am)
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In my experience a ranking (nw/land) and the connected quality of a kingdom needed for it of about Top5 on WoL translates into a approximately 50ish ranking on BF. <10 on WoL is outside T50 BF usually. With some variations due to some kingdoms adopting better or worse on BF, but a kingdom that manages Top50 finishes on BF consistently over several ages (doesnt need to be T20) runs for a server win on WoL usually.
Kaer Pike
Posts: 48
(09-Sep-2004 03:26 am)
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"wow smurfs ran away...didn't they agree to war?

losers"

Id like to see you war Force when u are in a kd about 1-2 mill smaller.
noob start talking about something u know about.. ;)
Dan Dead
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(09-Sep-2004 04:59 am)
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So Pike.. being 1-2M smaller means you can accept a war-challenge and than just run away again??
Mehuled
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(09-Sep-2004 12:15 pm)
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Smurfs has always been in my heart try to do better man ....i know you can do better
Kaer Pike
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(09-Sep-2004 01:47 pm)
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Dan Dead, Im not saying its good to run when u have accepted a challenge, and it is most unlike smurfs..

But what i hate is when some noob, comming in and calling a great kd losers. Just that ;)
KYu
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(09-Sep-2004 06:11 pm)
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i aint a noob. KLA is actually a pretty noob alliance, i've been in a KLA kingdom, bad leadership that doesnt listen to anything.

Smurfs is a good kingdom..

And by calling them 'losers' (which they are because they LOST) Seriously running from an AGREED war? Uhh yeah. They were in FW for like a week and a half, while force just grew, so whos fault is that? they were around the same size at the challenge, and Smurfs decided to go into a pump...and then decided they would wuss out and go vaca.
Wok
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(09-Sep-2004 07:04 pm)
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Meh.
H3nkaN
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(10-Sep-2004 11:06 am)
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@ The looser whining about WoL not getting anything on UT earlier and claiming WoL and BF are equal in mehuls eyes and all that bs

First off: WoL is meant for people to learn the game. When they get good enough they are offerd to move over to BF. Before they didnt get to choose they just go transferd. By then you could say all players who plays on WoL are either cheaters or n00bs. I have no respect for any of thoose. I dont think much has changed but now perhaps one should say they are either cowards or n00bs.

Same shit different name?
arhmaad
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(10-Sep-2004 02:37 pm)
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i could own on WOL because i am sexy, sexy people own the world.
Bagsik
Posts: 65
(10-Sep-2004 09:57 pm)
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H3nkaN: "The looser whining about WoL not getting anything on UT earlier and claiming WoL and BF are equal in mehuls eyes and all that bs"

Loser? You only posted once in UT and you are already calling me a loser? Tsk, tsk, tsk. If you are such a good player, why don't you post your province and location here so that we could see who is the loser. I have friends in BF who make you eat your words and fart in your nose. The only BS I see here is your post. So stop acting as if you are in the top 10 kingdom in BF and go wipe you n00b ass in the cactus tree.
Bagsik
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(10-Sep-2004 10:02 pm)
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H3nkaN: "First off: WoL is meant for people to learn the game. When they get good enough they are offerd to move over to BF. Before they didnt get to choose they just go transferd. Blah, blah, blah ....."

Who told you this? Was this mentioned in the GUIDE? Of course not. It's just your own imagination playing trick on you again just like everything else in your RL. WoL players are cheater and n00bs? Where's your proof? I have a proof that one of the kingdoms in BF is trading account. Where is yours? You calling WoL players cowards? HA! Just give us your location and we will give you a WoL kingdom that got transferred to BF and they will wipe your province clean.
Sir Havoc
Posts: 83
(11-Sep-2004 06:30 am)
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Those silly smurfs are prolly the dumbest KLA kd ever..

Silly n00bs thinking they're all that..
ineser
Posts: 870
(11-Sep-2004 11:45 pm)
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wow, force is good..
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